Comments on: Counting Scriptures in Blog Posts http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/ God's Word | our words | meaning, communication, & technology | following Jesus, the Word made flesh Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:24:32 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Matt Dabbs http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/comment-page-1/#comment-6711 Matt Dabbs Wed, 23 May 2007 17:21:34 +0000 http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/#comment-6711 I have a pretty thorough knowledge of statistics and data although a few of these newer programs I am not as familiar with. I am interested in learning more and will do some exploring. I have a pretty thorough knowledge of statistics and data although a few of these newer programs I am not as familiar with. I am interested in learning more and will do some exploring.

]]> By: Sean http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/comment-page-1/#comment-6710 Sean Wed, 23 May 2007 16:13:23 +0000 http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/#comment-6710 Despite my questions, i still think this is interesting data, and as you say, a better baseline would be very valuable to a lot of people. As it happens, i'm at a technical conference, and heard a presentation yesterday on <a href="http://microformats.org" rel="nofollow">microformats</a>. Scripture references are actually a great use case, and a microformat for references would be pretty easy to define (agreeing how to name books is probably the only issue, and even in this case there are already some standards). But, as with all microformats, the real issue is getting people to adopt them. Despite my questions, i still think this is interesting data, and as you say, a better baseline would be very valuable to a lot of people.

As it happens, i’m at a technical conference, and heard a presentation yesterday on microformats. Scripture references are actually a great use case, and a microformat for references would be pretty easy to define (agreeing how to name books is probably the only issue, and even in this case there are already some standards). But, as with all microformats, the real issue is getting people to adopt them.

]]> By: Matt Dabbs http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/comment-page-1/#comment-6708 Matt Dabbs Wed, 23 May 2007 11:51:46 +0000 http://semanticbible.com/blogos/2007/05/23/counting-scriptures-in-blog-posts/#comment-6708 Thank you for the link. A couple of things. I don't believe there is any way to reduce the noise 100% within the data. My original intention was to search all combinations (eg. Gen, Genesis, etc) but it soon became apparant that it was not possible without writing a script because the biggest roadblock is that the blog search tools all block you after so many similar searches because you begin to resemble a worm/program mining data. Because of that I restricted the search to full book name and chapter number in quotes (eg. "Genesis 1"). Where it gets a little sticky is in Numbers and with personal names like Matthew, Mark, etc. A search for "Genesis 1" does not include results for "Genesis 11" or "Genesis 12." While that does not capture everything, it at least looks evenly at what is there. While not perfect, it has raised some awareness and does need refined. But like I said after about 15 searches you get blocked from more searches by many search engines and so that really limits how much you can do at a time because in doing this you do need to use the same search engine for all searches. Anyway, to improve the data, we could devise a way to get more people on board to get a better baseline for future reference. This could be updates every year or so to see how things have changed. Again, thank you. Thank you for the link. A couple of things. I don’t believe there is any way to reduce the noise 100% within the data. My original intention was to search all combinations (eg. Gen, Genesis, etc) but it soon became apparant that it was not possible without writing a script because the biggest roadblock is that the blog search tools all block you after so many similar searches because you begin to resemble a worm/program mining data. Because of that I restricted the search to full book name and chapter number in quotes (eg. “Genesis 1″). Where it gets a little sticky is in Numbers and with personal names like Matthew, Mark, etc. A search for “Genesis 1″ does not include results for “Genesis 11″ or “Genesis 12.” While that does not capture everything, it at least looks evenly at what is there.

While not perfect, it has raised some awareness and does need refined. But like I said after about 15 searches you get blocked from more searches by many search engines and so that really limits how much you can do at a time because in doing this you do need to use the same search engine for all searches. Anyway, to improve the data, we could devise a way to get more people on board to get a better baseline for future reference. This could be updates every year or so to see how things have changed. Again, thank you.

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